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9.25.2011
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[Editor's notes are in square brackets. Texting acronyms are explained the first time they're used.]
[9:51] Flashing Merlin: hi tayra, meeting starts in 10 minutes [9:58] Flashing Merlin: hi creativity [9:59] Flashing Merlin: you've been ruthed again [Editor's note: Ruthed - a glitch in Sl which randomly transforms a male avatar into the default female avatar shape.] [10:00] Flashing Merlin: if you want to un-ruth yourself, you need to edit appearance and check "male"  [10:11] Creativity Farshore: Hello [10:15] Flashing Merlin: Our first topic, Can / Should we change the weather? [10:15] Creativity Farshore: Why would you want to do that? [10:15] Flashing Merlin: hi pale  [10:16] pale Infinity: hi [10:16] pale Infinity: sorry im late [10:16] Flashing Merlin: pale, we're asking if we can or should change the weather? [10:16] Flashing Merlin: Creativity, to counter global warming is the theory [10:16] pale Infinity: who is here? [10:17] pale Infinity: o geez i think it is the unknown caller [Editor's note: Pale is being harrassed in rl by hang-up calls.] [10:18] pale Infinity: yes it was [10:18] Flashing Merlin: Here's the link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14916451 [10:19] Flashing Merlin: The scientists involved want to simulate a volcano, where ash can block sunlight and cool the earth  [10:20] ergan Breuilly: **Hello ALL!!**))** [10:20] Creativity Farshore: What's wrong with the current temperature? It seems very nice in NYC today. [10:20] Flashing Merlin: hi ergan [10:21] Flashing Merlin: We're talking about changing the weather ergan [10:21] ergan Breuilly: yes interessant!*)* [10:21] ergan Breuilly: yes interesting! * [Note: Ergan uses a Babel Fish translator.] [10:21] Flashing Merlin: Perhaps the first question is do we believe in global warming?  [10:21] ergan Breuilly: c'est inévitable , je pense!* [10:21] ergan Breuilly: it's inevitable, I think! * [10:22] ergan Breuilly: la montée des eaux, un peu partout on the earth, surtout the islands* [10:22] ergan Breuilly: the rising water, everywhere on the earth, especially the islands * [10:23] Creativity Farshore: However, I think there is another fascinating question. As artists, the question is do we wish to create a different world, or should we work on creating different humans. After all, we've got genetics and robotics, and who knows what else. So lets be creative and leave all options open. [10:23] Flashing Merlin: Yes, I agree the earth is warming, but some don't. Do you creativity? [10:24] Flashing Merlin: So you want to change humans to adapt to changing weather, Creativity? [10:24] ergan Breuilly: yes, le renouveau passe par la culture!* [10:24] ergan Breuilly: yes, renewal through culture! * [10:24] ergan Breuilly: the future is made by culture !* [10:25] Creativity Farshore: Maybe we can create a new species which doesn't even believe in political parties. [10:26] Flashing Merlin: I think we used to have that Creativity, it was called survival of the fittest  [10:26] ergan Breuilly: the human beans must change their comportment, i do not believe in new species * [10:26] Creativity Farshore: Ergan, what is your definition of "culture"? [10:26] pale Infinity: excuse me please [10:26] pale Infinity: i am a bit sick [10:26] ergan Breuilly: smile, the Culture is all!* [10:27] pale Infinity: il be back as soon as i, well never mind [10:27] ergan Breuilly: in the books, sciences, bâtiments, etc, etc... [10:27] ergan Breuilly: in the books, sciences, buildings, etc., etc ... [10:27] pale Infinity: ill be back..i wouldnt miss this for the world  [10:27] Flashing Merlin: no opinion on warming, pale? [10:27] ergan Breuilly: la culture est l'avenir de l'homme , de tous les hommes!* [10:27] ergan Breuilly: Culture is the future of man, of all people! * [10:28] ergan Breuilly: finally the culture is the essential for humanity!* [10:28] Creativity Farshore: Ergan, are you using an instantaneous translation program - if so it seems amazingly good. [10:28] Flashing Merlin: OK ergan, culture is our future, should that culture be changing the weather? [10:29] ergan Breuilly: i speak a little english, it's better!*smile* [10:29] ergan Breuilly: no i do not think so, only human beans can do that! * [10:30] ergan Breuilly: culture is a outil!* [10:30] ergan Breuilly: Culture is a tool! *  [10:30] Creativity Farshore: The reason that I recommend changing humans is that many believe that we have to move out into the stars - and we have not evolved to do that easily as of yet. [10:31] ergan Breuilly: smile, je suis beaucoup plus terrien!**i think to different changes of mode's lifes!* [10:31] ergan Breuilly: smile, I am much more earthy! ** i think to different mode of life's exchanges ! * [10:32] Flashing Merlin: Interesting point creativity. Our Sun will turn into a red giant and consume the earth eventually, so why not think about moving now? [10:32] ergan Breuilly: optimiste je vois!*smile* [10:32] ergan Breuilly: optimist I see! * smile * [10:32] pale Infinity: im back..did i miss anything [10:32] pale Infinity: have we solved global warming yet? [10:33] Flashing Merlin: Creativity thinks we should plan on leaving earth eventually [10:33] ergan Breuilly: we must understand that the earth is not eternal!* [10:33] Flashing Merlin: sadly true, ergan [10:33] pale Infinity: well at times i know what he means [10:33] pale Infinity: unfortunately boredom is [10:34] ergan Breuilly: and nous restons passifs devant ce réchauffement!* [10:34] ergan Breuilly: and we remain passive before this warming! * [10:34] ergan Breuilly: in front of this warming climate! * [10:34] pale Infinity: what can we do, some of us are already in chains  [10:35] Flashing Merlin: Well, the scientists we're discussing want to change the weather by injecting particles into the atmosphere, is this a good idea? [10:35] Flashing Merlin: pale, what do you think? [10:35] Creativity Farshore: Pale, you're in Second Life ... This may be a good place to remove these chains [10:35] ergan Breuilly: la culture, i want to say the connaissance with the scientists can help us!* [10:35] ergan Breuilly: culture, i want to say the knowledge of the Scientists can help us! * [10:35] pale Infinity: at this moment a hydrogen bomb would be a relief [10:36] ergan Breuilly: really? u think that?*)* [10:36] pale Infinity: o yes [10:36] ergan Breuilly: i think that humanity is bettier than we think!* [10:36] Flashing Merlin: want to move to another topic, pale? [10:37] pale Infinity: you would be surprised [10:38] pale Infinity: like what? you mean other than obsure science? [10:38] ergan Breuilly: the human beans ne sont rien sans culture, sans connaissances, sans savoir!* [10:38] ergan Breuilly: The Human beans are nothing without culture, without knowledge, without knowing! * [10:38] Creativity Farshore: What about without joy? [10:39] ergan Breuilly: les sciences obscures ne sont que pure inventions!* [10:39] ergan Breuilly: obscure science are pure inventions! *  [10:39] pale Infinity: if you plant beans you get a beanstalk [10:39] Flashing Merlin: do you think ergan is talking obscure science, or isn't culture a topic that interests you, pale? [10:39] Creativity Farshore: What is an example of obscure science [10:39] pale Infinity: no im a philistine [10:40] ergan Breuilly: les philistins sont des penseurs!*smile* [10:40] ergan Breuilly: the Philistines are thinkers! * smile * [10:40] pale Infinity: no i only care about what i can touch [10:40] pale Infinity: smell [10:40] Flashing Merlin: Creativity, the science of injecting particles into the air from balloons is pretty obscure right now [10:40] pale Infinity: and take to bed [10:41] Flashing Merlin: Wouldn't you care if you could smell those particles they want to inject in the air, pale? [10:41] pale Infinity: you see... im on my honeymoon [Editor's note: pale partnered with SL avatar Klannex Northmead on 9.21.2011] [10:41] Mrags Writer: good moring all [10:41] Flashing Merlin: Hi Mrags! [10:41] pale Infinity: and a bit distracted [10:41] ergan Breuilly: Hi)* [10:41] Flashing Merlin: congratulations, pale! [10:42] Mrags Writer: sorry to be late.......... Congrads Pale!! [10:42] Flashing Merlin: Mrags, should science inject particles in the air to cool the globe?  [10:42] ergan Breuilly: it's good to be a dreamer, but life is not a dream, alas!* [10:42] pale Infinity: gee thanks [10:42] Mrags Writer: hummm [10:43] Flashing Merlin: Creativity suggests we consider leaving the planet all together. [10:43] pale Infinity: its science that got us f---cked in the first place [10:43] ergan Breuilly: consommer moins for beginning!* [10:43] ergan Breuilly: use less for Beginning! * [10:43] Mrags Writer: what type of particles ? [10:43] Creativity Farshore: the universe is unlimited. Think BIG, [10:43] Flashing Merlin: Burning fossil fuels is the "science" blamed for global warming, pale [10:44] ergan Breuilly: our life se résume au matériel, tout n'est que marchandise!* [10:44] ergan Breuilly: our life comes down to hardware, all is goods for sale! *  [10:44] ergan Breuilly: all is merchandising* [10:44] Flashing Merlin: Bigger than the universe, Creativity? We're already in the Metaverse! [10:45] ergan Breuilly: what U call the Metaverse Flashing??** [10:45] Flashing Merlin: Virtual worlds, such as SL, ergan [10:46] ergan Breuilly: ok, i see! i don't believe that we can compare SL to the RLife, SL is just a game first!* [10:46] Creativity Farshore: We've always been in a virtual world ... that's what thinking is ... the question is how we use this virtual world  [10:46] Mrags Writer: virtual reality as opposed to grounded reality [10:47] ergan Breuilly: positivement, for example now, en échangeant sur la détérioration du climat!* [10:47] ergan Breuilly: positively, for example now, by discussing the deterioration of climate! * [10:48] ergan Breuilly: le principal thing is pouvoir apprendre of the other!* [10:48] ergan Breuilly: the main thing IS to learn of the Other! * [10:48] Creativity Farshore: The 60s provided unlimited worlds, because people went beyond reality. This is another opportunity. [10:48] Flashing Merlin: good point, ergan! [10:49] ergan Breuilly: anyway we all go to a globalization of the world! * [10:49] Flashing Merlin: Yes, so to continue our discussion, do we want those scientists injecting particles in our atmosphere? [10:50] pale Infinity: that is only good for europeans [10:50] pale Infinity: it is ruining americas economy [10:50] ergan Breuilly: which kinds of particles??  [10:50] Mrags Writer: yes what kind of particles [10:50] Flashing Merlin: They want to experiment with different types, ergan [10:51] ergan Breuilly: the occident is sick, pale!* [10:51] ergan Breuilly: the West is sick, pale! * [10:51] ergan Breuilly: yes and how?* [10:51] Flashing Merlin: sadly true, ergan [10:51] pale Infinity: yes that is what we need ..more garbage in the air [10:51] pale Infinity: particles [10:51] Flashing Merlin: OK, let's oppose the idea, then pale! [10:52] pale Infinity: lets not [10:53] Creativity Farshore: We are all particles in the atmosphere  [10:53] Mrags Writer: good point *Smile* [10:53] Mrags Writer: esp in the larger picture [10:54] Flashing Merlin: OK, another topic, a new way to fight virus has been developed, what do we think? [10:54] Flashing Merlin: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110826134012.htm [10:55] Flashing Merlin: surely, that's relevent, pale? [10:55] pale Infinity: i think everyone on earth should get sick and die [10:55] pale Infinity: kill them off... i say [10:55] Flashing Merlin: bad mood today, pale? [10:55] pale Infinity: let the bacteria take over [10:56] pale Infinity: o no...everyone wants to spend their honeymoon at a science meeting  [10:56] Flashing Merlin: Well, there's another option we hadn't considered. Who else is for letting the bacteria take over? [10:57] Flashing Merlin: Art & Science, pale. You could talk about the art side. [10:57] ergan Breuilly: too many médicaments kill the médicament!**nous pouvons voir cela avec les antibiotiques!* [10:57] ergan Breuilly: too many drugs kill the drug! ** we can see that with the antibiotics! * [10:58] pale Infinity: ok..let me get the handcuffs off first [10:58] ergan Breuilly: You can find some antibiotics in the animal's nourriture!* [10:58] ergan Breuilly: You Can find Some antibiotics in the animal's food! * [10:58] Creativity Farshore: We are all particles in the atmosphere. Of course if we develop new types of human beings then they won't be impacted by bacteria or viruses. In fact SL beings are already in that state (probably due to the limitations of SL programmers). How long should one want to live. [10:58] Mrags Writer: well it would be nice not to have to worry about getting the flu and other things that are lurking about ..............  [10:58] pale Infinity: well..2 minutes for art..lets see a..r...t... [10:59] pale Infinity: t...r..a... [10:59] Mrags Writer: hahaha [10:59] pale Infinity: r..t..a... [10:59] Flashing Merlin: Agreed, Mrags! [10:59] pale Infinity: t..r..a... [10:59] pale Infinity: r..t..a... [10:59] pale Infinity: etc.  [11:00] Flashing Merlin: OK, our time has run out. Any last thoughts? [11:00] pale Infinity: o its 11 i must go [11:00] ergan Breuilly: ok bye pale!)* [11:00] Creativity Farshore: Bye all [11:00] Mrags Writer: sorry to be late  [11:00] Mrags Writer: think i missed some good stuff *Smile* [11:00] Flashing Merlin: glad you came, Mrags! [11:01] Mrags Writer: great to see you again Flash [11:02] Mrags Writer: well off to my vw [virtual world] adventures ..... enjoy [11:02] Flashing Merlin: always a pleasure, Mrags! [11:02] Mrags Writer: likewise my friend [11:03] Flashing Merlin: good meeting you ergan [11:03] ergan Breuilly: ok, thxs for all, was a pleasure this discussion, bye my friends!*)* 
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