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Subject: Re: Easter
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002
From: Flash Light
To: Dr. Sophronius

Dear Dr. Sophronius,

Fighting for your job? Has something happened since the last time we spoke? You told me then that you seemed to have enough votes for tenure.

As to tabling our discussion for two years, I wouldn't count on that. My father did not live two years beyond the age I'm at now. Nor did my grandfather, nor great-grandfather. I respect your decision to focus on worldly concerns, but I will respond now and you can reply at your leisure. (It will take leisure; this e-mail isn't going to be a quick read.)

The points you raise are interesting, but quite different from the ones I addressed. Let me speak to your points first: 1) evolution vs. creationism and 2) the origin of monotheism vs. polytheism.

On the issue of evolution, you contradict yourself. You wrote, "one could substitute the word "Fred" in any discussion and be no wiser. Fish have Fredded from birds or vice versa. When the niche is gone so is the whatever! You can be the fittest rhino going, take away the Serengetti (or wherever they live) and they're carrion."

Evolution, unlike Fred, is a scientific theory, and hence allows predictions, which can be used to test that theory. Evolution theorizes that species evolve in the attempt to adapt to habitats. Hence evolution predicts that the rhino, if its habitat changes, will either evolve or become extinct, yielding to species which are better at evolving. Fred didn't allow you to predict the extinction of the rhino if its habitat disappears, evolution did. Evolution explains, quite persuasively, the extinction of countless species. The fossil record shows birds evolved from dinosaurs, which evolved from lizards, which evolved from amphibians, which evolved from fish, not vice versa.

Creationism is hard pressed to explain why a Creator would create countless species, only to allow them to become extinct. Not to mention the fact that the fossil record shows millions of years passed before man showed up on earth, whereas the biblical account requires us to believe it all happened in seven days. Your friends appear to be ahead of you on this one: the only reasonable way to reconcile the idea of a Creator with the fossil record, is to assume that a Creator used evolution as the means of creation.

In fact, the biblical accounts themselves demonstrate that the story was not meant to be taken literally, because there are two contradictory accounts in Genesis. For example, the first account in Genesis I claims the plants were created before man, and the whole process took 7 days. The second account, in Genesis 2, claims the plants were created after man, to feed him, and the time line is vague. You wouldn't know it from reading the RSV, but the God of Genesis I was called Elohim, whereas the God of Genesis 2 was Yahweh. The first version was probably Babylonian because the sequence of creation is tied to the sequence of gods in the Babylonian week, e.g. Nergal, a pastoral god, was the name of the third day of the week, while Nabu, god of the heavens, was the name of the fourth day. Hence in Genesis I, vegetation is created on the third day, and the sun and stars on the fourth. The second version, in Genesis 2 was apparently an earlier version, perhaps Edomite in origin. The beliefs eventually merged, and Elohim Yahweh became God's name, but the RSV renders Elohim as God and Elohim Yahweh as Lord God.

As to "monotheism," if by "monotheism" you mean the worship of Elohim or Yahweh, then I must agree that this seems to have begun at roughly the same time as polytheism, and belief in all the other ancient gods. However, if by monotheism you mean, "the doctrine of the existence of only one God" (as my dictionary defines it), that belief appears to have taken hold only relatively recently. It does not appear to be supported by the Old Testament. As I've pointed out before, the first commandment states, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." It does not suggest there are no other gods, only that Yahweh is a "jealous god," and didn't want His followers worshiping those other gods.

In the time of King Solomon, we read that Solomon was told polytheists were worshipping in the temple, and he was asked what to do. "Say Amen," he replied, suggesting that at his time the modern definition of monotheism had still not taken hold.

The first appearance of modern monotheism seems to have been in the reign of the pharaoh Akenaten, but that involved Aten, a sun god, not Yahweh, and Akenaten's intolerance did not survive him, because his son, Tutankhamen, returned Egypt to the ancient polytheistic beliefs.

I suspect that the modern idea of monotheism centered on Yahweh began with the intolerance of Paul, but the first clear evidence for it seems to be the closing of the Pagan temples by the Greco-Roman emperor Theodosius. That would mean this definition of monotheism clearly postdates polytheism.

But, as you say, so what? These questions, interesting though they may be, were not of great concern to me, and are very different from the questions I was pointing out, namely whether the entire myth of Christ was simply taken "whole cloth," from earlier Pagan beliefs. This is very different from the question of monotheism vs. polytheism, or evolution vs. creationism.

It had been clear to me from my reading of ancient Egyptian myths that the idea of the resurrection preceded Christianity. I had suggested that Christ became aware of this idea while He was in Egypt. Now, however, the evidence seems to show that all aspects of the Christ myth were taken from earlier belief systems, from the virgin birth, right through to the crucifixion and resurrection. Surely it must give any Christian pause to learn that the entire story of the life of Christ was plagiarized!

Following is an excerpt from "Pagan and Christian Creeds," by Edward Carpenter (c. 1915), "I cannot of course go at length into these different cults, but I may say roughly that of all or nearly all the deities above-mentioned it was said and believed that:

(1) They were born on or very near our Christmas Day.

(2) They were born of a Virgin-Mother.

(3) And in a Cave or Underground Chamber.

(4) They led a life of toil for Mankind.

(5) And were called by the names of Light-bringer, Healer, Mediator, Savior, Deliverer.

(6) They were however vanquished by the Powers of Darkness.

(7) And descended into Hell or the Underworld.

(8) They rose again from the dead, and became the pioneers of mankind to the Heavenly world.

(9) They founded Communions of Saints, and Churches into which disciples were received by Baptism.

(10) And they were commemorated by Eucharistic meals.

Let me give a few brief examples.

Mithra was born in a cave, and on the 25th December. He was born of a Virgin. He traveled far and wide as a teacher and illuminator of men. He slew the Bull (symbol of the gross Earth which the sunlight fructifies). His great festivals were the winter solstice and the Spring equinox (Christmas and Easter). He had twelve companions or disciples (the twelve months). He was buried in a tomb, from which however he rose again; and his resurrection was celebrated yearly with great rejoicings. He was called Savior and Mediator, and sometimes figured as a Lamb; and sacramental feasts in remembrance of him were held by his followers. . . "

But then this is only a cause for concern if one tries to understand the logic of it: Is it that Christ was aware of these older myths and attempted to embody them? Is that His followers conflated the older myths with memories of Christ? Is it that the myth of Christ was patched together from older myths by the early Christians much the way Mohammed patched together Islam from older myths (including the Christian and Hebrew ones)? Or is it, as early Christians contended, that Satan created the earlier myths to discredit Christ when he finally arrived?

The selection of December 25th seems to have been a deliberate attempt by early Christians to "ride the coat tails" of earlier myths. You must agree it isn't based on anything in the Gospels. As to the other issues, most Christians will not be concerned with such questions. They simply believe in the Christ myth, and have no interest in applying reason to their feelings, much as some people still believe in Creationism, despite all the logical evidence for Evolution.

I argue that such feelings are the result of having been programmed in childhood to use certain myths as an "operating system." A computer doesn't question why it's running Windows, or Unix, or Linux. It simply accepts the program it was given and operates on that basis. In this manner, what we learn from studying AI (artificial intelligence) helps us understand the mechanisms of human intelligence, and why humans operate the way they do: simply accepting the myths their parents taught them.

As a Logical Pantheist, I believe the value of a belief system to a human is similar to the value of an operating system to a computer. None of us can function without our operating system. As a sociologist you should be able to compare those systems without having to assume one is "correct," or even that the idea of a "correct" belief system is applicable. Rather, the issues are whether a belief system meets the needs of its followers, and avoids destructive tendencies (e.g. religious wars, persecutions, etc.) On this basis it appears to me that polytheism is superior to monotheism in avoiding the consequences of intolerance. And indeed it is only the most pernicious aspects of monotheism (burning heretics, etc.) that has allowed monotheism to (temporarily) gain the upper hand over polytheism.

I imagine you want to save my soul from damnation, so you should understand why I want to save your soul from the intolerance, biased beliefs, and distortions of history programmed into it by your Christian upbringing. Slim chance, I admit, but at least I can try to appeal to the light of reason kindled by your sociological training to ask you to see your own cultural background from the perspective of a sociologist.

Compare beliefs of all existing cultures, as well as all ancient ones. Where then can Unitarianism stand, except as one of many beliefs among equals? How can a sociologist claim objectivity and yet cling to the assumption that of all belief systems in the world, she happened to have been born into the one which is correct?

From the point of view of a sociologist you needn't worry that different cultures have "incorrect" beliefs. Mithra saves! Anubis saves! Jesus saves! All of these beliefs are equally valid, each having accomplished salvation from fear in the culture it developed in.

As you write your reply, see if you can use your Sociological operating system to dictate your responses in equal measure with your Unitarian operating system.

Peace and love,

Flash

P.S. Remember the way I posted my correspondence with Bob Sturm on the Cosmology.ws website? I'd like to do the same on the Logical Pantheism websitewith our correspondence concerning metaphysical issues. I understand why worldly questions are paramount for you now, but from my perspective as an artist, nothing is more important than our inquiry into metaphysical questions, and the web seems an ideal medium for publishing such an inquiry.

P.P.S.: Where in the RSV do you find support for being cremated? That is a practice taken from Buddhist, and Hindu beliefs. I don't recall any references to cremation in the Bible. Rather there are references to God raising the dead from their bones. Hence the importance of preserving bones in Judaism and Christianity. Why are you willing to take such a risk with your chances of resurrection when it does not appear consistent with the literal teachings of the Bible, RSV or not?



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